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ANCIENT WOMAN THUNDERDOME 2023: Masterpost!

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The event: Poll bracket to answer the central question: which woman from ancient Greek or Roman myth and literature would win in a fight?

The rules: Vote based on who would win in a fight, NOT who you like more. Consider factors such as physical prowess, intelligence or cunning, and magical ability.

If the character has multiple non-godly forms, consider the one you believe to be more powerful. If the character is a goddess for a portion of their life, please only consider their mortal or non-godly form.

The tags: All posts related to the bracket are tagged “ancient woman thunderdome 2023.” All fights are tagged “who would win.”

The bracket:

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The fights:

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won't give my opinion on who would win until the poll is over but i do think the antigone vs helen fight is a case where gay sex is happening in the thunderdome

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oh now the poll is done i will say that i absolutely think helen would’ve won that fight. i love antigone but helen is way more equipped for an actual physical fight.

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Ancient Woman Thunderdome 2023

Round 2 Match 15: Pandora vs. Calypso!

The rules: Vote based on who would win in a fight, NOT who you like more. Consider factors such as physical prowess, intelligence or cunning, and magical ability.

If the character has multiple non-godly forms, consider the one you believe to be more powerful. If the character is a goddess for a portion of their life, please only consider their mortal or non-godly form.

The fighters:

Fighter: Pandora
Source(s): Hesiod’s Theogony and Works and Days
Bio: Pandora was the first ever woman, created by Hephaestus and gifted a number of different skills and objects by the other gods. She was a punishment for Prometheus giving humans fire, and so brought with her a jar full of evils: she opened the jar and let out all the evils, but closed it just in time to keep the jar’s last item: hope.

Fighter: Calypso
Source(s): Homer’s Odyssey, various other mythological sources
Bio: Calypso lived on the island Ogygia. When Odysseus landed on this island, Calypso wouldn’t let him leave for seven years; finally, Hermes came to tell her to let him go, which she argued against on the grounds that she loved him. Although angry, she did provide Odysseus with the materials to build a raft, and gave him the wind to leave safely.

WHO WOULD WIN?

Pandora

Calypso

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Ancient Woman Thunderdome 2023

Round 2 Match 14: Hippolyta vs. Pasiphae!

The rules: Vote based on who would win in a fight, NOT who you like more. Consider factors such as physical prowess, intelligence or cunning, and magical ability.

If the character has multiple non-godly forms, consider the one you believe to be more powerful. If the character is a goddess for a portion of their life, please only consider their mortal or non-godly form.

The fighters:

Fighter: Hippolyta
Source(s): Various mythological sources
Bio: Hippolyta was a queen of the Amazons. For Heracles’ ninth labor, he was supposed to steal her belt; Hippolyta gave him the belt, but then Hera tricked the Amazons into thinking Heracles was kidnapping her, and the Amazons attacked his ship. In some sources, Hippolyta died in the resulting conflict; in others, she wound up meeting and marrying Theseus and died later, in a conflict between the Amazons and Theseus.

Fighter: Pasiphae
Source(s): Various mythological sources
Bio: Pasiphae is known for being the mother of the Minotaur. Her husband, Minos, refused to sacrifice his nicest bull to Poseidon, and in retaliation Poseidon cursed Pasiphae with love for the bull. Pasiphae went to Daedalus and asked him to help her have sex with the bull; Daedalus created a cow outfit for her so that the bull might think she was a cow. This worked, and Pasiphae wound up giving birth to a half human/half bull creature, often called the Minotaur. In some sources, she was also a sorceress, and cast a spell on her husband so that if he was having sex with anyone else he would start to ejaculate snakes and scorpions.

WHO WOULD WIN?

Hippolyta

Pasiphae

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Ancient Woman Thunderdome 2023

Round 2 Match 13: Cassandra vs. Medusa!

The rules: Vote based on who would win in a fight, NOT who you like more. Consider factors such as physical prowess, intelligence or cunning, and magical ability.

If the character has multiple non-godly forms, consider the one you believe to be more powerful. If the character is a goddess for a portion of their life, please only consider their mortal or non-godly form.

The fighters:

Fighter: Cassandra
Source(s): Various mythological sources
Bio: Cassandra was a Trojan, the daughter of Priam and Hecuba. Apollo gave her the gift of prophecy, but cursed her so that no one would believe her. She foresaw the Trojan War, and the Trojan horse, but was not able to do anything to prevent either. After the war, Agamemnon took her as his concubine back to Mycenae, where Clytemnestra killed both Agamemnon and Cassandra.

Fighter: Medusa
Source(s): Apollodorus’s Library, Hesiod’s Theogony, Ovid’s Metamorphoses, various other mythological sources
Bio: Medusa was a Gorgon, with wings, talons, and snakes for hair. Unlike the other Gorgons, she was mortal, but her gaze would turn anyone who looked at her to stone. Most older sources depict her and her sisters as having been born monstrous, but Ovid says Athena turned Medusa’s hair to snakes after Poseidon defiled her in Athena’s temple. In most sources, Perseus beheaded her, avoiding her gaze by looking at her in his shield (a gift from Athena). In Ovid’s Metamorphoses, he beheaded her in her sleep rather than face her in battle. When he beheaded her, Pegasus (the original winged horse) and Chrysaor (a giant) sprung up from her corpse. Perseus kept her head and used it to turn others to stone.

WHO WOULD WIN?

Cassandra

Medusa

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Ancient Woman Thunderdome 2023

Round 2 Match 12: Medea vs. Circe!

The rules: Vote based on who would win in a fight, NOT who you like more. Consider factors such as physical prowess, intelligence or cunning, and magical ability.

If the character has multiple non-godly forms, consider the one you believe to be more powerful. If the character is a goddess for a portion of their life, please only consider their mortal or non-godly form.

Fighter: Medea
Source(s): Apollonius of Rhodes’ Argonautica, Euripides’ Medea, various other mythological sources
Bio: Medea was a sorceress from Colchis, where the golden fleece was housed. When Jason arrived in pursuit of the fleece, Hera wanted to help him, so she got Aphrodite to make Medea fall in love with him because she knew Medea had skills that would be useful. Medea did help, in exchange for Jason’s hand in marriage: she used her magic and knowledge to protect him through the tasks the king had him complete to get the golden fleece, and then when it turned out the king didn’t plan to give Jason the fleece, Medea put the dragon guarding the fleece to sleep while Jason stole it. She then joined Jason and the Argonauts in flight. When the Argo was caught by Medea’s half-brother, Apsyrtus, Medea tricked him into a trap so Jason could kill him. When they returned from their voyage, Jason was meant to trade the golden fleece for the king Pelias’s throne, but he wouldn’t give up the throne; Medea then tricked his daughters into killing him by telling them that if they cut him into pieces, she could bring him back to life. From there, she and Jason fled to Corinth, where they lived for some time before Jason decided he wanted to marry another woman, Glauce, the daughter of the king (Creon). Creon exiled her, and so Medea went to Athens and got Aegeus, the king there, to let her stay. She then called Jason to her, apologized for her reaction to his desire to marry someone else, and asked if her children could give Glauce gifts as an apology. The gifts, a robe and crown, were poisoned, and killed not only Glauce but also Creon when he tried to save her. She then killed both her children in an attempt to hurt Jason.

Fighter: Circe
Source(s): Homer’s Odyssey, Ovid’s Metamorphoses, various other mythological sources
Bio: Circe is known for living on an island and turning men to pigs. According to Ovid, she was responsible for Scylla’s transformation into a monster; in the Odyssey, Odysseus landed on her island, and she turned most of his sailors into pigs before Hermes gave him protection from her magic and told him that before they had sex, he had to make her swear on the gods not to hurt him. Odysseus did so, and Circe turned his men back into men. Odysseus and his crew stayed on her island for a year before continuing on their journey.

WHO WOULD WIN?

Medea

Circe

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